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December 01, 2003
Garbage Men
I found this via Unbroken Glass' comments:
...we had the same old discussion if we should marry a learning guy or working guy. The latter was so looked down upon. The teacher says we should all sell our diomand rings, and our husbands should all sit and learn fulltime. So I asked what if a guy isn't made out for learning. Shes like, well then, that's his challenge, he must overcome it… Then someone asked if everyone is learning whose going to support everyone… and I said if someone has the talents and capability to be a lawyer, why can't he use it and give plenty of charity? So she goes, well there always has to be a garbage man, but why does it have to be you? Shes comparing docters and lawyers to garbage men!!!!!!
I found the rest of it sort of hard to comprehend but the above paragraph stopped me. Doctors and Lawyers are garbage men? The entire class should marry working boys? Sell your diamond ring so he can sit and learn? Someone who's not made for learning, it's his "challenge"? He must overcome it? What is up with these people?
I always knew that some people think like that, I didn't know it's officially taught in schools. What is this world coming to? Do I have a new cause to campaign for? "Equal Rights for the Working Boy"
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COMMENT:
AUTHOR: cookie
DATE: 12/03/2003 12:03:23 PM
No time to blog, but I couldn't resist a comment. Nu, so what's the deal, I could live without lawyers (I think), but I couldn't live without garbage men (or women)! What utter snobbery. Like sanitation engineers are lesser beings than doctors or lawyers.
And the funniest part of all this is that I'm a believer in kollel. But it's clearly not the best thing for everyone. More when I (dream on) have more time.
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COMMENT:
AUTHOR: Ganger
DATE: 12/03/2003 09:00:53 PM
Poor little defenseless lawyers and doctors. Bad bad frumies: boo boo boo.
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COMMENT:
AUTHOR: Some
DATE: 12/03/2003 09:03:43 PM
Somtimes you need to get carried away just to stay your self, to counteract the onslaught of tumeh. Epes, get musser shmoozed.
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COMMENT:
AUTHOR: Gishmak
DATE: 12/04/2003 09:48:02 PM
I learned in BY-type schools....what we learned is that there are two types of GOOD JEWS. Those who learn and those who support the learners. If you're not made out to be a full-time learner, you can be ko'vea itim and make a Yissachar-Zevulun partnership. You can't look down at either side. Everyone's different - you just have to do your part.
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COMMENT:
AUTHOR: Some
DATE: 12/05/2003 12:31:57 PM
All learning boys are vampires.
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COMMENT:
AUTHOR: rinx
DATE: 12/07/2003 01:20:33 PM
lol, im famous, ppl are qouting me;) i agree with all of you... i personally would prbbly sell my diomond ring for my husband to learn...but thats me, not everyone can do that, and it not madotory for everyone to do that...and i believe ppl should and can be lawyers...its a controversy.. maybe we'll ask moshiach when he comes...
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COMMENT:
AUTHOR: MonkeyWrench
DATE: 12/14/2003 02:14:29 PM
Everyone loves to quote the Yissachar-Zevulun arrangement. As if they were the only shevatim! What if I want to be a Dan, or a Yosef, or whoever? (In fact, what if I AM one of those?) The truth is that Levi was the real learners and teachers of klal yisrael, but lets not let that get in the way of our contemporary view of Judaism.
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COMMENT:
AUTHOR: Kettle Called Black
DATE: 12/16/2003 05:12:02 PM
Of course Levi was supported by tithes from the other shevatim. Interestingly, the Rambam in Hilchos Ma'asros includes anyone whose work is solely for the klal as having the din of a Levi l'gabi communal support b'zman hazeh.
-- One whose wife refused to accept an engagement ring on the grounds that such a purchase was inappropriate hackafically for a kollel couple.
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Posted by notepad at December 1, 2003 05:40 PM